Isn't it odd how

[punt]

Isn't it odd (or perhaps not) that in the this UO emu community (and that does not restrict to UOX3, in fact, it is just a small player), that people are willing to ignore rules or things, when they believe it will give them some benifit.

Take a look at the latest UO Gateway fiasco. There, former moderator Lady Pendagram is quoted as saying (http://www.uogateway.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3887)
"We at UOG have extended our hands to all emulator users, and we hold them all under the same rules! NO One is above them ever! "

Now lets examine that for just a bit. Earlier she noted that due to Runuo's contribution, they where exempt for some of the naming rules. Please note, it didn't define to as "emu developers, tool developers, etc.". It was Runuo. Exceptions or excemptions are "above them". And here note in this post, the treatment that is given when a Runuo dev posts (http://www.uogateway.com/forum/viewtopi ... ight=runuo):
"Due to Ryan's posting I placed it as an announcement, and I am correcting the entire post to reflect the statement that was made."

And last, look at the current UOG rules, located here ( http://www.uogateway.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3740):

"o Other then the RunUO servers from the RunUO Team, you are not allowed to use anything with RunUO in its name! "


Note this doesn't say "Other then an emu development teams server...", it specifically says Runuo. To include UOX3 or Wolfpack in a server name doesn't violate the "letter" of what is stated.

So one can take the declaration of unbiasness and "no is above" with a grain of salt.

But that isn't the point of this rambling. What is , is how there was no isuse with this biasness, and few complained, for it was deemed mutually benificial to members of the two parties (community so tospeak).
However, when one took steps to expand into the others, how quickly it turned. That is a prevailing theme concerning license, rules, etc. As long as it fosters a position that is alignment with want one wants to accomplish, it is ok (regardless, it can be rationalized).

Isn't it interesting, for here you see how far this goes. In the reply to this thread (http://www.uogateway.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3887), you seen Ryan responding :
"We're in this for learning, and fun not to deal with personal derogatory attacks like this."

However, repeatedly we have seen on Runuo site posts like this (http://www.runuo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62317):
"If these people were "superior" their code wouldn't crash. You can take an out of box distribution of RunUO 1.0.0 and put it against any fork or competitor out there and run 8000 users through it and RunUO 1.0.0 is the only one who will be left standing. We've done it.... we know."

Far from the voice of someone in it for fun. Many of the posts seem to be more then just fun (where if fun, one ignores what others say, for it doesn't affect it).


At any rate, this isn't a rant against either of these sites, they are just examples that at any time, what seems to be prevalent in the UO emu community. Any site, including UOX has experienced the same situation. People seem to be more focused on people worshiping them, or insisting that accomplishments are god like worth. Ignoreing rules when it is to their advantage, and then suddendly attacking others who break the rules that now procted what they want.

Something I haven't personally seen in many other software areas. Perhaps it is how this started, I don't know. I find it intriguing. No question people have done some very fine work, and by any question something that one can be proud of. I am not so sure the same can be said of the community in general that has been fostered and developed (where it sounds and looks like the recess playground at times).

[giwo]

I'd have to say I wholeheartedly agree with you there, punt.

I'm not entirely sure what it is about UO, but something just draws all of the looneys out to play. It's not that other projects don't have their fair share of strange ones, there just seems to be more to go around in UO Emulation.

Whatever the case, reading the forums of other sites makes me glad that life is a bit quieter in these parts. I recall having to be "supermod", and it's not a position I'd like to return to.



As a side note, any clue as to why opendir("./"); wouldn't open up the current working directory on a linux box? afron and I seem to have hit a wall...

[Sydius]

I think it is just a matter of maturity. Most advanced professionals have better things to do, and most inexperienced people see emulation as an easy way into the MMORPG field (at least as a hobbyist). You also have to take into consideration the primary driving force behind 80% of the people who make custom servers – to be God and have things their way.

I have been in the community since I was 14 or 15, and everybody knows I have thrown my fair share of immature tantrums over not getting what I want (mostly recognition). I like to think I am more mature now, but really, I have just given up on what I wanted before, and type everything using a spell-checker now.